A long time ago, I was browsing my Facebook page when I came across a post that ridiculed Kirk Cameron’s efforts to sell an “Atheist” Bible.
A friend (who it turns out to be an atheist) seemed to think that Kirk was “uninformed”
Well I thought, lets discuss this issue, and what follows is a record of our discussion.
I really looked forward to his responses and enjoyed considering and responding to his concerns.
Some of my friends comments are a bit lengthy, and as I read them I found echoes of myself, seeking to defend a position simply by supplying a massive quantity of words, knowing inside that he quality of the argument was weak.
If you are a believer in the Lord Jesus, you may find encouragement, and some understanding of an atheist’s worldview.
If you are an atheist, I would encourage you to read and consider my responses. I seek to understand your position, and if you see a fallacy in my thinking, please comment. I only ask that you focus your position to one point at a time, in order that I may respond (if I can) without unnecessary confusion.
My comments and responses are in red.
Music is a bit corny, and it seems he is reading some prepared text. And selling the Bible may be giving fuel to the implication of profiteering. He may even be an idiot. I don’t know.
The issue is whether or not the Bible’s message – that of the resurrection of Jesus Christ – is accurate.
If it is, then the implications are enormous.
If it isn’t, then Kirk Cameron (and all believers in the message of His resurrection) can be ignored.
Before you condemn it, read the Bible for yourself.
It is very surprising!!!
I’ve read enough of the passages to know they are stories that do not reflect an accurate amount of information. It’s like telling a story today and writing about it years later but not by you….the first passages were not written until approximately 50 years after a death of someone who was creating a cult (small amount of people) that would later grow to a religion. Just other religions before it starts with a few and if the message is enticing enough then more join and grow.
Unfortunately or fortunately as we understand more about biological, psychological, genetic, etc. influences it seems very unlikely for such a being to exist. I am biased toward the facts that are presented by repeated measures and not a single anomaly that only a select few can observe…and it’s a bit ludicrous to think that only a few countries in the world can pray and have a miracle happen…is it 5500/day in Africa that die from aids? And a majority of the population had been introduced to Christianity….but alas they still suffer everyday, why such selection? It just makes absolutely no sense if you look at the whole of things instead of such a concentric view of life.
Did Jesus rise from the dead?
The recording of the histories, the probability of a certain thing happening, (or person existing), and the suffering of untold innocents are merely sidebars to the issue.
By the way, what are YOU doing to alleviate the suffering of the dying?
It is easy to be an armchair critic, esp if your search for truth relies on “reading enough passages”
BTW, most of your arguments are very common distractions to the core issue of YOUR responsibility to search out truth. In the end, if you are satisfied with the above arguments, be content.
Otherwise, continue to search.
Be blessed, Friend!
BTW, as I reread your msg, I seemed to “hear” you link Christianity with a health and wealth prosperity gospel (ie 5500 die in Africa and yet introduced to Christianity)
I suppose the passages you read in the Bible didn’t include the many passages about believers suffering sickness, poverty, sadness and persecution. (BTW the Bible is rife with these passages!)
This apparent link doesn’t exist, and might hint at the implication that the passages you “read” might be select popular passages from a sunday school, or common discussion texts that are discussed in a group that heard about these texts.
Read the Bible. It may surprise you what you are fighting against.
Be blessed Friend
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How did Jesus and the apostles interpret the Old Testament?
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As mentioned in my earlier post, I was in discussion with my Sunday School teacher and we verred into the topic of faith. This topic addresses the first Greek word in our table below
In our last post concerning Peters effort to walk on water, we considered Peter’s orthopraxy, that is the way he lived out his faith (in a very specific instance), and one of the many harsh experiences he had to under go to become a man of God.
Jesus was speaking of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadduccess. He was teaching metaphorically, not literally. The disciples listened the the Lord literally, and missed the truth.
Jesus came to create religion. Why is He knocking it?
So, how does your Christian life relate to the turmoil of the political landscape in your land? Do you get caught up in the promises, the hopes that politicians freely provide. Do you see that political power is a positive influence in your nation?
I am convinced that Christianity and political power cannot exist together. Religion and politics can exist, since they both seek to influence souls externally. Not so with Christianity. Christianity is completely different – The Spirit of God is internal, living and powerful, convincing and convicting each believer to follow God.
In my introduction to this series of blog posts, I drew attention to verses that supported my belief that the ten commandments were no longer applicable to the believer.
The End. What does that imply, mean and communicate?
One day, as I am strolling down the road, I see a $1 bill and a $100 bill. The wind is starting to pick up and I have to make a decision. Should I chase the $1 bill or the $100 bill? I have to make a judgement, a decision, and then follow through with it. In this instance, there is no moral element in the decision / judgement, (other than possible covetousness,) but would it not simply be foolish to abandon that poor lonely $100 bill!
How did Jesus and the apostles interpret the Old Testament?
My wife and I have had our disagreements, and I know that this is the sign of a healthy marriage. We have sometimes struggled understanding each others opinions, wants and needs.
In this passage, the disciples are in a boat again, and it is in the middle of a storm, but it is Peter that “risks it all”
This is rebellion.
Note that upon sinking, Peter cried out to the Lord. Immediately Jesus rescued him. No longer did Peter walk on the water, looking to Jesus. Jesus physically held on to him, but spoke of his littleness of faith.
How about you? The last “test” you were provided?
One day, my car wouldn’t start and I exploded. Entering the house, I hurled my keys across the table, without realizing my 3 year old son was sitting at the end of it. Thankfully, the keys slid past him and dented the wall instead of my son. (God protects His fool again!)
Strife is the work of an angry man. He isn’t happy with his life, and he finds satisfaction in spreading strife, or division among those he associates with. This type of man eventually becomes lonely, which only fuels the anger, that unmet expectation of love and kindness we all look for.
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