A long time ago, I was browsing my Facebook page when I came across a post that ridiculed Kirk Cameron’s efforts to sell an “Atheist” Bible.
A friend (who it turns out to be an atheist) seemed to think that Kirk was “uninformed”
Well I thought, lets discuss this issue, and what follows is a record of our discussion.
I really looked forward to his responses and enjoyed considering and responding to his concerns.
Some of my friends comments are a bit lengthy, and as I read them I found echoes of myself, seeking to defend a position simply by supplying a massive quantity of words, knowing inside that he quality of the argument was weak.
If you are a believer in the Lord Jesus, you may find encouragement, and some understanding of an atheist’s worldview.
If you are an atheist, I would encourage you to read and consider my responses. I seek to understand your position, and if you see a fallacy in my thinking, please comment. I only ask that you focus your position to one point at a time, in order that I may respond (if I can) without unnecessary confusion.
My comments and responses are in red.
Jesus rising from the dead? no one else does so why one person out of billions upon billions of others don’t? I donate $15 a month to one of the support a child organizations (i’m a student what do you expect) as for suffering in other ways… what can one do except try and educate and spread the word of reality…once i have paid debt off and have extra money i can try and influence on a monetary level more efficiently…unfortunately most of the power is held with in government and more so in corporations bank books.
Everyone is an armchair critic, and some of the ones that go out and try to alleviate the suffering prey upon the suffering to boost their image (mother Teresa) her quote along the lines which were people need to suffer to be closer to god…kinda immoral in my books but..no comment.
Distractions of reality? or distractions of trying to be hoaxed into believing something that is enticing but false? I don’t understand what the distraction is? Every part of the bible makes no sense in today’s day and age…psychologically every enticing aspect of the bible such as eternal life and someone who is always loving and there for you is what a hominid seeks….there’s nothing special here except that certain things are said to satisfy a lot of human emotions (terror management theory).
Biologically most things are not even possible in the stories mentioned in the bible (virgin birth). Now don’t get me wrong the bible would be good for an english class or literature but for reality? I think not…it makes no sense if you learn about biology, psychology, genetics, physics, etc…
Hope all is well with you Carl 🙂
Golly Friend – this again shows that your understanding of the scriptures are not accurate.
Many times the apostles (the Bible) described the raising of the dead, and they were eye witnesses to these events – specifically the resurrection of Jesus Christ. These men died horrible deaths, (secular histories affirm this!)
Why?
Why suffer and die for a lie?
Hey thanks for dropping by and reading my post, especially if you are an atheist friend. I hope to hear from you and would appreciate a comment to begin a discussion.
Have a great day.
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I see that, despite a promise to remove it, that disagreeable meme image is still conspicuously displayed on your post. 😦
I think that Kirk Cameron is ‘misinformed.’ His arguments against evolution – really? a crocoduck??! – make him appear monumentally unknowledgeable about its realities, either that, or monumentally devious about his arguments. He doesn’t seem to have the brains to be that sly, but his fruit-salad friend, Ray Comfort (barely) is. :oops
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Friend.
On the previous post I mentioned I would be happy to replace the graphic as I understood your points.
I would like to understand clearly your concerns, but it seems you depend on insults for a defense ie …the brains to be that sly…
To be clear, if you need to make these assertions to “prove” your arguement, my understanding of your position does become clear, but implies you do not have a stronger defense.
Although I did not promise removal of the graphic unconditionally, when I get a chance I will try to find a replacement.
Thanks and have a great day
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To point out that someone’s actions, attitude, beliefs and statements are demonstrably incorrect, is not an insult. It is merely demonstrating observable reality.
So, you would like proof of my argument?? Okay, Kirk Cameron’s understanding of evolution is that a crocodile could give birth to a duck. He has to be extremely stupid and gullible to accept that anti-Atheist propaganda from the likes of Ray Comfort.
Educated men, experts in their field have informed Kirk that his claims are not even close to the reality of evolution, and yet he continues to do televised interviews where he pulls out his strawman story, over and over. This appears to be justification for belief in his stupidity
At least when Ray Comfort was shown that his beloved banana was designed by Man, rather than God, he stopped using it as a Creationist argument. It took him two years,</strong but he finally stopped. Unlike Kirk, he was smart enough to know how foolish it made him and his position look.
”My concerns” are the existence of Liars For Christ. I’m not so upset that you didn’t remove the graphic from the first post, despite you clear statement that you would. (Although, I now see that you have edited it out, so that you look good, and no-one can prove otherwise.) I had hoped that you might be moral enough to honor your word. Instead you are using weasel-words to slip away. I am ‘concerned’, that you have now knowingly, intentionally, attached it to a second post. Do not call me “friend!” My friends do not act this way. I am again disappointed, but not really surprised.
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I am sorry you are disappointed.
Like I said, I will look to replace the graphic to keep from offending you. (My desktop has the BSoD so it may not occur for a few days.)
Nevertheless, my efforts to discuss appear to simply cause friction.
Therefore, I will consider our comments concluded and wish you the best.
Thank you
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