The lost will perish, but what does that mean?
To perish. What does it mean?
The greek word Apollumi is translated as
I find it interesting that Apollumi is the word Jesus used in John 3:16, describing the fate of those that believe not.
Previously when I have considered John 3:16, I have consistently understood it like this…
John 3 :16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not experience unending suffering, but have everlasting life.
Is that what the Master meant to communicate?
What if I understood Apollumi as synonymous with “experiencing unending suffering” in all the other instances it appears in the New Testament?
The following verses will have the greek term Apollumi replaced with “experience unending suffering”. As you may find out, some verses make no sense at all.
I will offer a few verses to make my point in some areas, but if the reader would like to refer to each verse using “Apollumi”, refer to the following document
Bottles suffering unending torment?
Matt 9 :17
Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles experience unending suffering: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved.
Hair suffering unending torment?
Luke 21 :18
But there shall not an hair of your head experience unending suffering.
Food (Meat) suffering unending torment?
John 6 :27
Labour not for the meat which experiences unending suffering, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.
Gold suffering unending torment?
1 Peter 1 :7
That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that experiences unending suffering, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
Those who do not take up the sword may escape suffering unending torment?
Matt 26 :52
Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall experience unending suffering with the sword.
Drowning is equivalent to suffering unending torment?
Mark 4 :38
And he was in the hinder part of the ship, asleep on a pillow: and they awake him, and say unto him, Master, carest thou not that we experience unending suffering?
The place of suffering unending torment is between the altar and the temple?
Luke 11 :51
From the blood of Abel unto the blood of Zacharias, which experienced unending suffering between the altar and the temple: verily I say unto you, It shall be required of this generation.
Sheep suffer unending torment?
Luke 15 :6
And when he cometh home, he calleth together [his] friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me; for I have found my sheep which was experiencing unending suffering.
Prodigals suffer unending torment but can escape by changing their mind?
Luke 15 :24
For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was experiencing unending suffering, and is found. And they began to be merry.
Luke 15 :32
It was meet that we should make merry, and be glad: for this thy brother was dead, and is alive again; and was experiencing unending suffering, and is found.
Self preservation results in suffering unending torment!
Luke 17 :33
Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall experience unending suffering; and whosoever shall experience unending suffering in his life shall preserve it.
John 12 :25
He that loveth his life shall experience unending suffering it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.
Wisdom suffering eternal torment?
1 Corinthians 1:19
For it is written, I will experience unending suffering the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
A Christian suffering eternal torment?
Is this really saying what I think it is saying? Either it means eternal torment, which means a Christian may loose their faith/salvation or the word does not necessarily mean unending conscious torment and suffering.
Rom 14 :15
But if thy brother be grieved with [thy] meat, now walkest thou not charitably. Don’t force unending suffering on him with thy meat, for whom Christ died.
1 Corinthians 8 :11
And through thy knowledge shall the weak brother experience unending suffering, for whom Christ died?
The world experience unending torment?
2 Peter 3 :6
Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, experienced unending suffering:
The heavens and the earth will experience unending suffering – Now that is beyond me!
Hebrews 1 :11
They shall experience unending suffering; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;
The resurrection of Jesus Himself may be compromised if the definition of Apollumi equals suffering unending torment.
We know that He was raised from the dead so this can only be an error on the part of Caiaphas! (If only John hadn’t mentioned that this statement was a prophecy of the Messiahs sacrifice!!!)
John 18 :14
Now Caiaphas was he, which gave counsel to the Jews, that it was expedient that one man should experience unending suffering for the people.
So what is the conclusion of the matter?
It is not as clear cut as I had once assumed! Apollumi seems to have the meaning of destruction/perishing/lostness, but not necessarily eternal unending suffering. Of course, some verses may seem to make sense by bringing this meaning to the verse, like the following
Matt 18 :14
Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should experience unending suffering.
One could import the idea of eternal suffering into this context, but it is not the only way to read it!
Luke 13 :5
I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise experience unending suffering.
Of course if Jesus meant that the hearers would be destroyed by invading armies due to their sin, the idea of eternal suffering need not be imported.
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to experience unending suffering both soul and body in hell.
If Jesus was referring to hades/the grave when he mentioned hell (check Strongs Concordance), the Father is able to destroy both body and soul after death. Either both body and soul endure eternal torment, or both body and soul are destroyed. It is interesting to note that the first phrase does not use destroy but kill. The body is not destroyed, but simply lifeless. (Soul and body are separated!) The destruction of both is up to the Father.
Some verses may be used to prop up the eternal torment teaching and may be viable interpretations. If I seem to be doubting the teaching of eternal torment, it is because I think I wanna figger out what the apostles want to teach me.
I cant learn from them if I keep correcting them.
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