Sabbath · Traditions

Jesus on the Sabbath – Part 10 – A Simple Witness

jesus-the-grain-fieldRecently I penned a series of post on the Ten Commandments and as I was writing it, found that the Sabbath day was the only commandment not reapplied  to believers in the New Testament.

In writing that series of posts, I was reminded that the Sabbath day was one of the main irritants between the Lord Jesus and the Pharisees.

In our last post, we were looking at the miracle of the blind man seeing.  In this post, the message of the healing is not lost on the Jewish leadership.  Things are heating up between the Pharisees and the Lord.

First off, let’s see how this seeing man handles himself with his neighbors

Discussions and Questions

8 The neighbors and those who had seen him before as a beggar were saying, “Is this not the man who used to sit and beg?”

This formerly blind man was well known in the neighborhood.  He had been a fixture in the area, and was recognized by many, but not all, which is kinda curious.  He had his sight given to him, not a tummy tuck and a nose job!

9 Some said, “It is he.” Others said, “No, but he is like him.” He kept saying, “I am the man.”

Division.   Someone has brought division amongst the religious – Hummm.  I wonder Who?

The Pharisees were divided.  The neighborhood was divided. A little later in the text, the parents were divided.  Not with each other, but divided from this new disciple of Jesus.  They would not commit any answer to the Jewish leadership.

How sad!

How unnecessary.

And yet, how common, though for the Master to be the source of division.  He claimed that He was sent yielding a sword and there would be division within families due to Him

10 So they said to him, “Then how were your eyes opened?”

The buzz was everywhere.  Everyone had heard of the miracle.  It was obvious to all that this man had been healed.  The issue was who performed the miracle! This initial test was passed with flying colors by the blind man because he simply told of what he knew.  This is the perfect description of a witness.  Tell what you know.  Don’t exaggerate, or flagellate, expand or deflate the story.  Tell the truth.

These neighbors were the first court of public opinion that the blind man had to venture through.  It turns out to be the easiest, since the neighbors seemed (in comparison to the Pharisees below) to be without much of any agenda.

11 He answered, “The man called Jesus made mud and anointed my eyes and said to me, ‘Go to Siloam and wash.’ So I went and washed and received my sight.”

12 They said to him, “Where is he?” He said, “I do not know.”

The blind man knew it was “a man named Jesus”.  Fair enough.  He is telling the truth of his story.  He knew of Jesus as a man only.  He didn’t know where He was.

This discussion with the blind man was going no where.  The neighbors started to get a bit peeved, and decided to deliver the man to the Pharisees.

Bringing him to the professionals!

Join me in my next post to see how this seeing man blinds the Pharisees with his witness.  Hope to see you there – no pun intended!


 

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Song Squawk – Bicycle

In the mid nineties, I had a little red Buick and a big ol’ bass box in the trunk, and would listen to “Christian Rock”, cranked to 11.

(What did you say?  Huh?  Can  you say that again, I didn’t hear you….)

I have gotten away from that genre for many reasons, the least of which may be a loss of hearing, but some songs have stuck with me over the decades.

The artist’s I listened to sought to reflect Scriptural teaching for the most part. They ranged from “preaching” pop culture religion to significant theological teaching. As I listened to the lyrics, I found some to be quite challenging.

To be honest, I listened because I could justify the rock beat with “sanctified lyrics”.

Occassionaly I will post a song, supply the lyrics and make a comment or two. If you decide to listen to the tune, turn the speaker down unless you are already deaf. Some of the songs tend to have a certain “volume” about them!


This post will consider the song

Bicycle – by Plankeye

The verse that I loved to sing along with was the following.

You say, I told you so
You were much too young to get married
But I say, you’re way too old
And when did you stop living anyway?

If you have read my testimony, you know I married early and my favorite and I struggled keeping food on the table. Many a night we ate popcorn for supper, or the dreaded LaChoy canned chinese food. No matter, God was (and is) good to us! This song reminds me on those early days, and although nothing earth shattering regarding theology, it reminds me of my early faith, with the following verse.

As I ride my bike with my safety helmet on
And white tennis shoes
They stare at me but I see through new eyes
Or maybe you just don’t remember

As a believer, we see through new eyes! May we never forget the vision those eyes can see!

Take a listen!

Bicycle – by Plankeye

Bicycle – by Plankeye

I have a wife and together we live
In a very small room
Yesterday she lost, her car broke down
And now I ride a bicycle

You say, I told you so
You were much too young to get married
But I say, you’re way too old
And when did you stop living anyway?

As I ride my bike with my safety helmet on
And white tennis shoes
They stare at me but I see through new eyes
Or maybe you just don’t remember

This place that I’m supposed to be
Is not the chair in front of a desk, in front of a mirror

Can’t you see that it’s not here or there or anywhere?
But in speaking distance with God
And where can you go that’s too far?
Because I can worship Him anywhere

Let me know what you think of the lyrics, and of the tunes!


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Atheism · Christianity

Discussions with an Atheist – Part 11

atheist

A long time ago, I was browsing my Facebook page when I came across a post that ridiculed Kirk Cameron’s efforts to sell an “Atheist” Bible.
A friend (who it turns out to be an atheist) seemed to think that Kirk was “uninformed”
Well I thought, lets discuss this issue, and what follows is a record of our discussion.
I really looked forward to his responses and enjoyed considering and responding to his concerns.
Some of my friends comments are a bit lengthy, and as I read them I found echoes of myself, seeking to defend a position simply by supplying a massive quantity of words, knowing inside that he quality of the argument was weak.
If you are a believer in the Lord Jesus, you may find encouragement, and some understanding of an atheist’s worldview.
If you are an atheist, I would encourage you to read and consider my responses.  I seek to understand your position, and if you see a fallacy in my thinking, please comment.  I only ask that you focus your position to one point at a time, in order that I may respond (if I can) without unnecessary confusion.
My comments and responses are in red.

Granted the outliers would skew the data for life span but for total amount of the human population and amount of disease, illness, etc. would have made these stats still unlikely..

Unlikely does not prove anything, and you must have misread my response earlier. Avg life span is NOT the issue. It is the specific life spans of those recording the historical record of Jesus that is the issue!

Plus the whole biblical theology is nothing more than stories that have been reiterated….

A statement that you have not proven.

These people also believed in some of the most ridiculous things that even a child would not believe in today if they were informed properly witches, ghosts,etc

Where is it recorded that the apostles, who recorded the life and death of Jesus, believed in witches and ghosts?

Back then did they know about bacteria or viral infections? or was it bad spirits?

What has bacteria and viral infections have to do with the record of Jesus?


Hey thanks for dropping by and reading my post, especially if you are an atheist friend.  I hope to hear from you and would appreciate a comment to begin a discussion.

Have a great day.


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Kingdom of God · New Testament

Jesus & Paul – Different Messages? Part 11

PaulIn the past few months I have noticed that there are rumblings – at least in my world – of some internet folks trying to make out the message of Paul to be different that that of Jesus.

Never mind the fact that Jesus was dealing with a nation in the last gasps of it’s life and His pleading for their repentance, and Paul’s focus on “making that tent bigger for them dirty Gentiles” (See Isaiah 54:2-3)

Why?  I don’t know, and at this point I am not concerned with their motivation, since I will assume the worst, which may not be fair.

Nevertheless, as I was browsing my computer bible study files, I providentially tripped over the following information.  I must have found this info years back, and will not take credit for the compiling of the verses, but for the life of me, I am not sure where I found this.

This is the eleventh post addressing different topics from the New Testament that both Jesus and Paul taught on showing similarity in their teachings.  My comments will be sparse, (unless they are not)

11. Both taught that good works (works of obedience to God) are essential to the Christian life and will be the basis of the final judgment.

Jesus

Matthew 5:16 — In the same way, let your light shine before others, so that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father who is in heaven.

Matthew 7:24-27 — “Everyone then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock. …And everyone who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand.”

Matthew 25:31-46 — “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. And he will place the sheep on his right, but the goats on the left. Then the King will say to those on his right… ‘I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me. …Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’ Then he will say to those on his left…’I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me… Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

Luke 6:46 — “Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do the things which I say?”

Matthew 16:27 — For the Son of Man will come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and then He will reward each according to his works.

Paul

Ephesians 2:10 — For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.

Romans 2:6-10 — He will render to each one according to his works: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; but for those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, there will be wrath and fury. There will be tribulation and distress for every human being who does evil, the Jew first and also the Greek, but glory and honor and peace for everyone who does good, the Jew first and also the Greek.

Romans 6:15-18 — What then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no means! Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? But thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were committed, and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of righteousness.

Galatians 16-25 — But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. …Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Colossians 1:10 — that you may…[be] fruitful in every good work…

2 Thessalonians 1:8 — [Christ will come] in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Titus 2:14 — who gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works.

A short post to encourage you with the consistency of the Word.  May the Lord strengthen you and bless you as you seek His Kingdom.

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Commandments · Confidence · OSAS · Security of the Believer

1 John – Testing to Know – Test 4

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Test #4 Loving my Brother

1 John 2:9 – 11
Whoever says he is in the light and hates his brother is still in darkness.

Whoever loves his brother abides in the light, and in him there is no cause for stumbling.

But whoever hates his brother is in the darkness and walks in the darkness, and does not know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded his eyes.

In the last post, we dealt with three concepts that John addresses in this epistle.  Justice, love and faithfulness.

John starts out with the believers claim of abiding in the light and yet hating his brother.  It is, John warns us, a false claim.  Hating a brother in antithetical to Christian life.  Golly, the Master has told us to love our enemies.  Love, in its proper understanding is the very heart of God, and is to be the heart of the believer.

But lets consider this issue of stumbling.  If we love our Brother, there is no cause for stumbling.  I assume John is saying that hating my brother is the cause of stumbling, at least in this context.

Quite a while ago, I came over another verse that made a similar claim.

Psalm 119:165

Great peace have those who love your law; nothing can make them stumble.

Let’s consider what it means “to stumble”.  John uses the greek term σκάνδαλον skandalon when he speaks of stumbing in this verse.

The term refers to a trap or a snare, an impediment to cause tripping.  Occasionally the term refers to the Master Himself, in relation to those who were blind and unwilling to repent.

Life is full of these traps, and by the deception of the enemy, these traps may appear to be justifiable in the believers thinking.

Let me give you an example.

A neighbor once became antagonistic to our family, and his hatred centered on my sweet little wifey.  He drug us into court over crazy claims and personally sought to intimidate us.  This went on for a number of years and we had friends that counselled us to retaliate in one way or the other.

Thinking without the guidance of the Word, we could have retaliated justly in our thinking.  He started it.  He was the one who spread lies about us, and the neighbors we were close to.  He deserved to be opposed!

david-spares-sauls-lifeIt just so happened (providentially don’t you know) that we were reading through the story of David and Saul, and how David would not retaliate on Saul.  Vengeance is mine saith the Lord, was a phrase that kept coming up.  Love your enemy.

Can I say we never fell into a hatred of our neighbor.  Not!  Absolutely I was weak.   But as the Lord supplied strength, we came out of this period seeing the Lord deliver us from this neighbor, and heard many stories of His justice being enacted on this poor man.

But I want to confess something.

Our effort to love this neighbor during this time was a bit weak.  We didn’t retaliate in any way, other than sometimes slipping into vile gossip, but we were not very proactive either.  Being friendly when seeing him on the sidewalk, offering a meal or giving a gift (like a big ol apple pie?) may have been a good start.

Let us not think that the demands of the Master are of no impact on our lives.  I often considered the offer of grace to be a relief from the burden of the ten commandments.  In some ways, the burden is greater, since the requirement is to obey the spirit of the law and not simply the letter of the law.  With the same breath, I also want to remind us to learn of Him.

Matthew 11:29 – 30

Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

He is the One to look to for all things.  Help me O Lord in making Your will my focus.

I hope you found a truth that was helpful in your life within this post.  Drop me a line, or send this post to a friend that you thought of recently.


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Doctrinal · End Times · Hell · Judge

Judge Judge Judge – διάκρισις – Study 6-A

Because of the CrossThanks for returning to this series on “Judge Judge Judge” and my feeble attempt to understand a believers responsibility and right to make judgments.

Another purpose of this series hopefully is to understand the believers restriction on judgement. 

What can a Christian judge?  How is he to judge?  What is prohibited in the Christian life to judge.  So many questions and concerns. 

Our sixth greek word related to judging is…

diakrisis

διάκρισις – diakrisis – discerning, discern, disputation

This word is found only 3x in the New Testament.

Romans 14:1

As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions.

Opinions – I got too many opinions. As I git a bit older, Im a realizin that opinions are to be offered when asked for, and not to be supplied whenever I need to breathe.

The verse above refers to the idea of opinions, but I think it is a bit more than that.

Let’s consider what Vine’s expository dictionary says to give a bit of guidance

“a distinguishing,” and so “a decision” (see A), signifies “discerning” in 1Cr 12:10Hbr 5:14, lit., “unto a discerning of good and evil” (translated “to discern”); in Rom 14:1, “not to (doubtful) disputations” is more literally rendered in the margin “not for decisions (of doubts).”

As I grow into the Lord, I realize that the major things are to be kept major, and the minor things are to be kept minor.

But even though I’ve know that spiffy saying for decades, yet I always wanted to place into the major bucket those things I was just studying, the things I just learned, or more often that not, the things I am not struggling with.

If I did not struggle with a certain behavior or thought, then I would slide it into the major bucket, thereby giving myself a pat on the back, and supplying a hammer to hit everyone else with.

One topic that fits into this conversation is the topic of drinking as a believer.  As you may know by reading this blog, I was a teenage alcoholic, but I have spent time in my walk with God beating believers up with select Bible verses condemning the act of consuming a bit of beer or whiskey, of even a sip of wine.  (What a Pharisee!)

So I took this minor disputable teaching, dropped it into my mental major bucket, felt good of my victory over it, got puffed up, offended good believers, built walls of division and wasted time on a minor concern within the Lord’s family. (What a Pharisee!!)

Ok – so what is in the major bucket Carl? Glad you asked.  I want to tell you a story.

Story Time

Old JohnThe story goes that the Apostle John was nearing death when he finally got back to the church in Ephesus, and all the believers came together to hear the one that Jesus loved, speak to the church.

The crowds came together, and some of the elders carried John to the front, since he was so crippled up, placed him so all could here him.  The crowd hushed in order to hear the words of wisdom that would surely pour forth from the great Apostles heart, mysteries of God from walking with Him for many decades.

He drew in his breathe, looked at the saints and said…

Love one another.

That was his message.  No drawn out sermon.  Succinct and to the point.  (Much unlike some of my posts!)

Brethren.  Don’t argue over disputable issues within the Word, with those who are committed to the Lord.

  • Teach – yes.
  • Encourage – yes.
  • Admonish – yes.
  • Exhort – yes.
  • Correct – yes

Most importantly, in all things – Love the brethren.

Thanks for joining me in this study.  Hope to visit with you in our next post as we continue to look at the Greek term διάκρισις.

Be Blessed.


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Interpretation · Old Testament in New Testament

OT in NT – Jude

old_testament_law-450x300.jpg?format=originalHow did Jesus and the apostles interpret the Old Testament?

This post is simply a data dump of information for your struggle.

Find below a spreadsheet embedded into the post that lists  verses from the New Testament book of Jude and corresponding Old Testament references.

Good luck as you research each of the verses and try to understand Jude’s  justification for using the Old Testament passage the way he did.


 

26-OT in NT – Jude

 


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Sabbath · Traditions

Jesus on the Sabbath – Part 9 – Seeing Blind Men

jesus-the-grain-fieldRecently I penned a series of post on the Ten Commandments and as I was writing it, found that the Sabbath day was the only commandment not reapplied  to believers in the New Testament.

In writing that series of posts, I was reminded that the Sabbath day was one of the main irritants between the Lord Jesus and the Pharisees.

I was out with my first grandson yesterday, and he likes to read me the Bible during our ventures.  I could simply stream a passage for both to hear, but this is so much better.  I git to interrupt him, explain things that might not be obvious for a young boy, and challenge him in considering who this Jesus is.

It was awesome, and as we spoke together, the Lord reminded me of great things He has done.

Like I said, he asked what passage he could read to me and I immediately thought of this passage.  It is a favorite and I am looking forward to diggin in a bit with you.

John 9:1-16

John 9:1

As he passed by, he saw a man blind from birth.

I asked Elias if this man had ever seen in his life.  Never.  I explained that in no time during the history of the nation of Israel had any person, born blind been healed of their blindness.  Some of the prophets raised people from the dead (only for them to die again later), but not one had ever healed a blind man.  And this fella had been blind since birth.

This miracle gives more than the simple physical healing of a blind man, miraculous as it is.  This miracle points to Jesus as the promised Messiah.  Consider two Old Testament prophecies of the Messiahs role as a healer.

Isaiah 29:18 …..And out of their gloom and darkness the eyes of the blind will see.

Isaiah 35:5 Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened…

Isaiah 42:7  …To open blind eyes,

Psalm 146:8 the Lord opens the eyes of the blind…

The blind man, born blind, benefited greatly from this mercy from the Lord.

The greater truth is that this miracle was another proof (to those willing to see) of the identity of Jesus.  Do not be unwilling to see!

2 And his disciples asked him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?”

3 Jesus answered, “It was not that this man sinned, or his parents, but that the works of God might be displayed in him.

How could this man have sinned in the womb, in order for the “judgement of blindness” to be effected?  I tell you, there was some messed up thinking during this time.  It sure is good our thinking is so straightened out. (A bit waggish there, don’t you know!)

4 We must work the works of him who sent me while it is day; night is coming, when no one can work.

5 As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.”

How appropriate to bring in the character of light when dealing with a blind man?  Back in John 8:12, in discussion with the Pharisees, He spoke of being the Light of the world and that following Him will keep us out of darkness.

Now He is speaking to a man who has been in physical darkness his entire life.  This man will become a sign for the nation, and for individuals watching, that the Messiah has arrived.

6 Having said these things, he spit on the ground and made mud with the saliva. Then he anointed the man’s eyes with the mud

During Elias’s reading, I had him stop to consider what just happened in the  text.  Jesus “horked” on the sand, pulled some dirt up with it and rubbed it on the blind mans eyes.

Imagine the hygiene issues with this method.  Imagine the grit and grime associated with the mud on (or in!) the eyes.  This may be one time the blind man may be happy he was blind, not knowing what was going to happen to him.

7 and said to him, “Go, wash in the pool of Siloam” (which means Sent). So he went and washed and came back seeing.

Note that the cure did not come at the hands of Jesus only.  Don’t be alarmed – I am not saying that the power of God through Jesus Christ is not fully responsible for this miracle.

The obedience of the blind man, in having to go to the pool (as a blind man!) gave evidence of his faith.

He went.

He washed.

He came back seeing.

I don’t know if this could be considered saving faith, but it did evidence a willingness to believe in the unconventional.  Verse 11, indicates that the blind man knew the healing prophet was Jesus of Nazareth so faith in the prophet was evident.

He will be challenged in his faith later.


 

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Song Squawk – Preacher’s Kid

In the mid nineties, I had a little red Buick and a big ol’ bass box in the trunk, and would listen to “Christian Rock”, cranked to 11.

(What did you say?  Huh?  Can  you say that again, I didn’t hear you….)

I have gotten away from that genre for many reasons, the least of which may be a loss of hearing, but some songs have stuck with me over the decades.

The artist’s I listened to sought to reflect Scriptural teaching for the most part. They ranged from “preaching” pop culture religion to significant theological teaching. As I listened to the lyrics, I found some to be quite challenging.

To be honest, I listened because I could justify the rock beat with “sanctified lyrics”.

Occassionaly I will post a song, supply the lyrics and make a comment or two. If you decide to listen to the tune, turn the speaker down unless you are already deaf. Some of the songs tend to have a certain “volume” about them!


This post will consider the song

Preachers Kid – Johnny Q Public

The verse that I loved to sing along with was the following. Note that this is the ruminations of a preacher’s kid, with lots of questions!

It’s like the pictures that I draw
Pictures that I draw of dinosaurs
They remind me of the man
Who prays for the needy in our church
In other words
I’m not a good artist

Prays for the needy in our church. Aaron is seeing a problem with that man’s prayers now, isnt he?

I only found one cd that this band put out, but I searched for more. This band is awesome and the story structure is well done IMHO. This particular song speaks of the loneliness of the preacher kid, and the disillusionment that comes from being in a family dedicated to professional service to God. Well done!

Take a listen!

Preachers Kid – Johnny Q Public

Preachers Kid – Johnny Q Public

I’m staring through glass
Stained by insecurities and hurt
I’m wondering, and I’ve got lots of questions
But no answers why
Daddy is the pastor of this church
Seems to be his only out
Besides basketball on the TV
Basketball on the TV

My name is Aaron, does anybody care?
I want to fly to the moon and drive a race car
would like to be a star
My name is Aaron, please tell me if I’m wrong
Please tell me if I’m wrong
I want to dream
I want to dream
I want to dream
‘Cause dreams are real to me
As nothing is reality
It’s like the pictures that I draw
Pictures that I draw of dinosaurs
They remind me of the man
Who prays for the needy in our church
In other words
I’m not a good artist

Does Jesus love me, Mommy
Does Jesus love me, Daddy
Does Jesus love me, anybody
Does Jesus love — does anyone love me?

Let me know what you think of the lyrics, and of the tunes!


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Atheism · Christianity

Discussions with an Atheist – Part 10

atheist

A long time ago, I was browsing my Facebook page when I came across a post that ridiculed Kirk Cameron’s efforts to sell an “Atheist” Bible.
A friend (who it turns out to be an atheist) seemed to think that Kirk was “uninformed”
Well I thought, lets discuss this issue, and what follows is a record of our discussion.
I really looked forward to his responses and enjoyed considering and responding to his concerns.
Some of my friends comments are a bit lengthy, and as I read them I found echoes of myself, seeking to defend a position simply by supplying a massive quantity of words, knowing inside that he quality of the argument was weak.
If you are a believer in the Lord Jesus, you may find encouragement, and some understanding of an atheist’s worldview.
If you are an atheist, I would encourage you to read and consider my responses.  I seek to understand your position, and if you see a fallacy in my thinking, please comment.  I only ask that you focus your position to one point at a time, in order that I may respond (if I can) without unnecessary confusion.
My comments and responses are in red.

You are basing your answers on writings/scriptures that have no validity…

Definition of  valid –… to be well-grounded on principles or evidence; able to withstand criticism or objection, as an argument; sound.

Although you have claimed many times that the scriptures are not a reliable source, this does not make them so. (I claim I can sing, but everyone else knows better. And the more I claim it, the surer everyone else is of the truth!)

Please prove to me, in one specific instance from the scriptural record, the invalidity of the document. You see, one of the definitions of the term valid is “able to withstand criticism”.

The Bible (or at least parts of it) has faced attacks from its enemies for close to 3500 yrs, and it is still “standing”. In the last century it has been “validated” by archeology many times over.

One instance is the book of Daniel, where Belshazzar, King of Babylon is mentioned. Critics found fault with this mention, since no Babylonian records named such a king. That is until the 19th century, when archeologists uncovered a stone with the writing of a Babylonian king speaking of his son Belshazzar as co-regent. Amazing discovery, since, in the Old Testament, this King B actually offered Daniel the position of being 3rd in power in the Kingdom. Third, because King B. was actually the second in command.


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