Atheism · Christianity

Discussions with an Atheist – Part 3


A long time ago, I was browsing my Facebook page when I came across a post that ridiculed Kirk Cameron’s efforts to sell an “Atheist” Bible.

A friend (who it turns out to be an atheist) seemed to think that Kirk was “uninformed”

Well I thought, lets discuss this issue, and what follows is a record of our discussion.

I really looked forward to his responses and enjoyed considering and responding to his concerns.

Some of my friends comments are a bit lengthy, and as I read them I found echoes of myself, seeking to defend a position simply by supplying a massive quantity of words, knowing inside that he quality of the argument was weak.

If you are a believer in the Lord Jesus, you may find encouragement, and some understanding of an atheist’s worldview.

If you are an atheist, I would encourage you to read and consider my responses. I seek to understand your position, and if you see a fallacy in my thinking, please comment. I only ask that you focus your position to one point at a time, in order that I may respond (if I can) without unnecessary confusion.

My comments and responses are in red.

No offence but if you tell a story or experience and you repeat it then another person yells another…etc. What happens to the story? It becomes highly skewed…it’s even proven in many cases of mistaken identity in court cases and mistaken identity…the human mind is highly susceptible to disillusions and with the use of the availability heuristic humans can misjudge and create a memory, image, sound, etc. So anything written down anything shorter than a few minutes past the event it can not be fully accepted as truth.

Your concept is true – I used to play the very same game when I was in boy scouts – (don’t laugh!)
The problem is that though this is a provable experience – ie skewed stories through multiple humans, the concept cannot be applied to the gospels.
You see, the ones who wrote the gospels were the ones who heard the initial original message and watched the very man (Jesus) walk and talk. (and die!)
I s’pose you may say that the apostles were all hallucinating the resurrected Christ. But you must account for this multi-person hallucination (at one time up to 500 people saw the resurrected Jesus), being the source of conviction that brought suffering, beatings, persecution and death.
(Peter, according to popular tradition (not in the Bible) is said to have been crucified upside down, and survived on the cross for days before dying.)
You know, I have not talked (typed?) with many atheists, and I appreciate your willingness to converse. Believe me, I will not take offense at anything you mention – It is just good to discuss – It is how I learn.
But as I was thinking ’bout you the other day, it occurred to me that to be an athiest requires that of proving a universal negative, and to do that you would have to be all-knowing. If this universal negative has to prove Gods non-existence, it becomes self defeating – Only “GOD” knows all things
Kinda a catch 22
Looking forward to your response!

Hey thanks for dropping by and reading my post, especially if you are an atheist friend. I hope to hear from you and would appreciate a comment to begin a discussion.

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