2020-10-20 – Considering the Bible

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A long time ago, I was browsing my Facebook page when I came across a post that ridiculed Kirk Cameron’s efforts to sell an “Atheist” Bible.

A friend (who it turns out to be an atheist) seemed to think that Kirk was “uninformed”

Well I thought, lets discuss this issue, and what follows is a record of our discussion.

I really looked forward to his responses and enjoyed considering and responding to his concerns.

Some of my friends comments are a bit lengthy, and as I read them I found echoes of myself, seeking to defend a position simply by supplying a massive quantity of words, knowing inside that he quality of the argument was weak.

If you are a believer in the Lord Jesus, you may find encouragement, and some understanding of an atheist’s worldview.

If you are an atheist, I would encourage you to read and consider my responses. I seek to understand your position, and if you see a fallacy in my thinking, please comment. I only ask that you focus your position to one point at a time, in order that I may respond (if I can) without unnecessary confusion.

My comments and responses are in red.

Music is a bit corny, and it seems he is reading some prepared text. And selling the Bible may be giving fuel to the implication of profiteering. He may even be an idiot. I don’t know.

The issue is whether or not the Bible’s message – that of the resurrection of Jesus Christ – is accurate.

If it is, then the implications are enormous.

If it isn’t, then Kirk Cameron (and all believers in the message of His resurrection) can be ignored.

Before you condemn it, read the Bible for yourself.

It is very surprising!!!

I’ve read enough of the passages to know they are stories that do not reflect an accurate amount of information. It’s like telling a story today and writing about it years later but not by you….the first passages were not written until approximately 50 years after a death of someone who was creating a cult (small amount of people) that would later grow to a religion. Just other religions before it starts with a few and if the message is enticing enough then more join and grow.

Unfortunately or fortunately as we understand more about biological, psychological, genetic, etc. influences it seems very unlikely for such a being to exist. I am biased toward the facts that are presented by repeated measures and not a single anomaly that only a select few can observe…and it’s a bit ludicrous to think that only a few countries in the world can pray and have a miracle happen…is it 5500/day in Africa that die from aids? And a majority of the population had been introduced to Christianity….but alas they still suffer everyday, why such selection? It just makes absolutely no sense if you look at the whole of things instead of such a concentric view of life.

Did Jesus rise from the dead?

The recording of the histories, the probability of a certain thing happening, (or person existing), and the suffering of untold innocents are merely sidebars to the issue.

By the way, what are YOU doing to alleviate the suffering of the dying?

It is easy to be an armchair critic, esp if your search for truth relies on “reading enough passages”

BTW, most of your arguments are very common distractions to the core issue of YOUR responsibility to search out truth. In the end, if you are satisfied with the above arguments, be content.

Otherwise, continue to search.

Be blessed, Friend!

BTW, as I reread your msg, I seemed to “hear” you link Christianity with a health and wealth prosperity gospel (ie 5500 die in Africa and yet introduced to Christianity)

I suppose the passages you read in the Bible didn’t include the many passages about believers suffering sickness, poverty, sadness and persecution. (BTW the Bible is rife with these passages!)

This apparent link doesn’t exist, and might hint at the implication that the passages you “read” might be select popular passages from a sunday school, or common discussion texts that are discussed in a group that heard about these texts.

Read the Bible. It may surprise you what you are fighting against.

Be blessed Friend

Hey thanks for dropping by and reading my post, especially if you are an atheist friend. I hope to hear from you and would appreciate a comment to begin a discussion.

Have a great day.