Questions I’ve Been Asked – Thousand Years Part 2

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Let’s continue in our second post based on the “Questions I’ve Been Asked”, regarding the binding of Satan, and more specifically, the term “a thousand years” in the book of Revelation.

You see, a brother asked me about the thousand year teaching in the Book of Revelation and if Satan is bound at the present time.

I hope I can address these concerns properly.

Let’s read the passage one more time.

Rev 20:2

And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

As I mentioned at the end of our last post, this next question has been the most influential in my understanding of the passage.

1000-22.) Does the literalness of a passage increase due to the use of a precise number?

When John is writing this passage, he uses a specific number, and because of this, must mean what he writes, right?

(And isn’t that a cool gif? —->)

We must take his description of the thousand years literally since he specifically uses that specific term and did not modify it by using terms like “approximately” or “about” or “more than”. I must have heard this argument a million times! – Literally a million times!!!

But is that how a Jewish man would communicate 2000 years ago (not exactly 2000 years ago, but again, you know what I mean, right)?

John was a man steeped in the Old Testament, and surely knew of the instances the prophets used the very same term. Granted, sometimes the prophets would be defining a population, the result of a census, or a sum of money, and that seems to be an obvious use of the term in a literal sense. But sometimes the prophets used the term “thousand” to define an indefinite time, or an extended time.

Consider the following passages

Deuteronomy 1:11
May the LORD, the God of your fathers, make you a thousand times as many as you are and bless you, as he has promised you!

Was the LORD going to implement a birth control system once the population grew to a certain point? (Don’t be so sarcastic Carl!)

Deuteronomy 7:9
Know therefore that the LORD your God is God, the faithful God who keeps covenant and steadfast love with those who love him and keep his commandments, to a thousand generations,

Ok, follow me on this – let’s assume that one generation is 40 years (just for giggles!)

OK, lets make one more assumption, and that is that Moses recieved this promise aproximately 2,000 years before the birth of our Lord. I know it was less, but let me make the math easy!

A thousand generations would be forty thousand years. 40,000 years! That means that this promise ceases to be valid in the year 38,000.

Don’t get me wrong – I’m glad my great great great …. grandchildren have a chance, but honestly, what about my lineage in the year 38,001? (Ok Carl now you are being ridiculous!)

Deuteronomy 32:30
How could one have chased a thousand,
and two have put ten thousand to flight,
unless their Rock had sold them,
and the LORD had given them up?

Although there are many instances of small contingencies of Israeli men taking on multitudes (I am thinking of Gideon and Jonathon for instance), I don’t know if the exact thousand to one or five thousand to one ratios ever exactly occurred.

The Psalms are very descriptive and poetic and often use terms in a very symbolic fashion – not very much unlike the book of Revelation.

Psalm 50:10
For every beast of the forest is mine,
the cattle on a thousand hills.

I am sure God owns all the cattle. I guess I need to google the actual number of hills on earth – I am sure it is one thousand exactly!

Again Carl – too sarcastic – tune it down a smidge!

Psalm 68:17
The chariots of God are twice ten thousand,
thousands upon thousands;
the Lord is among them; Sinai is now in the sanctuary.

Twenty thousand chariots are a lot of chariots!

Psalm 84:10
For a day in your courts is better
than a thousand elsewhere.
I would rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God
than dwell in the tents of wickedness.

Could the psalmist be using “thousand” days as an expression extending beyond two years and 9 months? Why is he so short sigted? I would have used a million instead of a thousand – At least then I would have over 2700 years of being in His courts!

Psalm 90:4
For a thousand years in your sight
are but as yesterday when it is past,
or as a watch in the night.

Yesterday and a watch at night are two different spans of time, so if we are goings to be ‘literalists” regarding the use of the term thousand, we need to consider the literalness of some of the other time descriptions being used.

Psalm 91:7
A thousand may fall at your side,
ten thousand at your right hand,
but it will not come near you.

The psalmist seems to use thousand and ten thousand interchangeably. Interesting.

Psalm 105:8
He remembers his covenant forever,
the word that he commanded, for a thousand generations,

The covenant is referred to as being forever and the generations are numbered at a thousand. Is there a hint here that thousand means more than a thousand?

It seems that when the writers of Scripture wanted to define an extended number or time , they used the term thousand.

When they wanted to really blow your mind Scripture writers would use the term “murias”, which comes down into the English language as the word myriad. This term seems to give the impression of an innumerable number.

Although this is a short study, it is rooted in the Old Testament. As I grow as a Christian, I am increasingly impressed with the importance of comparing Scripture with Scripture. especially in the book of Revelation.

I look forward to comments and questions, especially passages of Scripture that may help in understanding this topic better.


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3 thoughts on “Questions I’ve Been Asked – Thousand Years Part 2

  1. I think in prophecy numbers are important. When you look at Revelation, or Daniel, or many of the other prophesies in the Bible, usually it talks in days.

    I have found the principle of a day for a year to be very reliable. See Numbers 14:34 and Ezekiel 4: 5,6. When applied to the 70 week prophecy in Daniel we see it’s perfect fulfillment. I have also applied it to many other occasions where this happens and found the events in history to perfectly line up.

    In the case of a thousand years, John seems to leave this cryptic time language and gives a plain time of a thousand years. I definitely see the point you make of it being used in many cases as a figure of speech.

    In this case I feel it is more literal. We see in the historical timeline of the Bible around 2000 years from creation to flood. 4000 years from flood to the first advent. Now we are almost 2000 years from the first advent. I believe Christ will soon come in the clouds of glory to take his people home. Would it not make sense then that we spent 1000 years in heaven as a “sabbath.” The Bible does say that a thousand years are as a day to God, and God seems to take numbers seriously. Just some food for thought anyways.

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    1. Fair enuf.

      He is coming soon, whether the 1000 yrs are literal or figurative.

      In my case, He will visit within the next couple decades, (I’m kinda an ol’ coot) so….

      I think I’m gonna look at that verse in Peter about thousand years are as a day. I think I’m missing something when I read it!
      Thanks for the comment.

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    2. Hey I couldnt resist – I took a look at 2 Peter 3:8 and noticed that the text isnt eqating 1000 yrs as a day, but only comparing both ways.
      Not stating 1000 yrs = day or one day = 1000 yrs.

      I’m thinking Peter is merely making a point that time isn’t something our God is constrained by, He dwells in eternity.

      Peter reminds his readers of the Psalm where the 1000 yrs is even compared to 8 hrs ( a watch in the night!).

      ‘For a thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night.’

      Oh my that would change our calculations wouldn’t it.

      Hey thanks for the brain worm, I really like these little sidebar studies

      Be blessed

      Carl

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